Peter Thiel has arguably become one of the most influential and controversial figures in Silicon Valley. His power and influence as an entrepreneur, venture capitalist and political operative is wide ranging. Since he operates mostly in secret, using shell companies, cutouts, and surrogates, few recognize how far his power truly extends.

The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power, by Bloomberg Businessweek features editor Max Chafkin, is the origin story of Peter Thiel—how he acquired power, how he concealed it and how he plans to use it.

On Sept. 28, Max Chafkin joined The Logic’s editor-in-chief David Skok for a conversation about the new book.

Watch the recording here.

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